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falls where on the map. it's coming up. >>> all right. now to the looming fiscal cliff and the last-ditch effort to stop the nation from going over. >> the president is meeting with congressional leaders just about an hour ago. any last-minute deal will likely have to wait until the senate returns. >> reporter: president obama summoned congressional leaders to the white house today hoping for a deal to avoid the fiscal cliff. the power brokers have four days before the government starts slashing military and domestic spending. president obama is pushing for a stop gap measure that with avoid faxes on people earning less than $25,000. on capitol hill frustration is growing. both republicans and democrats sound look they have given up. outside the capitol democrats hauled out a times square ball prop with the emergency, don't drop the ball. >> the republicans refuse to ask those with the most in our society to give a little bit more. >> reporter: a simple stop gap measure is not what many in washington had hoped for. republicans blame president obama for the collapse of a bigger deal
to go south? >> that's right. happy new years, america. we appear poised to dive off the fiscal cliff starting with a round of finger pointing today. this is classic gridlocked washington. why america is fed up with the lawmakers and all about pointing fingers, gaining the upper hand here. and also, gaming this out because if we do dive off the cliff an we don't get a deal in the next couple of days, which looks increasingly like where we're headed then we come back in january and have to negotiate again and a political advantage for both sides if that's the case. >> her's the thing. even if a deal does get done at this point, it's a small deal. much smaller deal than both sides said they wanted several months ago. the debt ceiling, will be back in two months. there's a good chance we are going to be revisiting a budget issue in march, as well. is this the new d.c. zachary? >> well, it's kind of an old d.c. and the current version, you know, 4.0. and you're absolutely right. it's convenient because there's a news hook for the fiscal cliff for january 1st and calling this now b.c. befo
does not reach the agreement on the fiscal cliff. right now there are still negotiations that are going on. they are being led by the vice president, vice president biden and senator minority leader mitch mcconnell. sources say that they are making some progress, but even if a deal is reached, no guarantee it's going to pass. listen to what one democratic senator, tom harkin, said on on the senate floor just earlier this morning. >> if we're going to have some kind of a deal, the deal must be one that really does favor the middle class, the real middle class, those making 30, 50, 60, $7,000 a year. that's the real middle class in america. as i see this thing developing, quite frankly as i've said before no deal is better than a bad deal, and this looks like a very bad deal the way it's shaping up. >> we want to bring in dana bash on capitol hill. when you think about it, both sides are not happy with what's taking place, at least what they're talking about. i know you have some new information on at least what the republicans are suggesting when it comes to those massive spending cuts,
is that going to do to the fiscal cliff negotiations? >> right, there are a couple deadli deadlines actually coming up. january 2nd is the last day of the current congress. any bill that's been submitted, especially the bills that have been passed, the deal with the fiscal cliff, those bills would be worthless. they would go into paper and everything would have to start from scratch. the new congress would have to start a bill and start the process from the beginning. now there are some tricks that congress has to try to speed things up when it wants to. so to some degree, it's not that big of a deal. if there was a deal in the offing, january 3rd, enough votes for it, they could get around the hurdles. but i'm glad you brought up the deadlines because another one is tomorrow. unemployment benefits run out tomorrow for 1 million people. not true. the unemployment portion of the fiscal cliff actually hits us tomorrow. and that's when 1 million people are estimated to see unemployment benefits run out. and tomorrow is also the day that the house will return. i know we said that democrats shame
with four days to go before the fiscal cliff strikes. >> all right. always a pleasure. thank you, sir. >> good to be with you. >>> major break today in negotiations between dock workers and port operators puts off at least for now a port strike that would have shut down nearly all shipping traffic along the east and gulf coast. a federal mediator says that the union and group representing the shipping lines agreed to a 30-day contract extension narrowly averting the sunday strike deadline. business groups warn that the economic impact of such a work stoppage is disaster. joining me is nbc's ron mott. for folks not following the story, how did we get here? >> reporter: folks haven't because they're paying attention to the fiscal cliff. this was lurking in the shadows and today moved the ball down the field for 30 days and may be talking about a strike again in 30 days but the big issue here was this so-called container royalty that the shipping companies pay to the union members who actually the guys and men and women offloading the big ships and the containers with things like tvs and
the press when it comes to the fiscal cliff handling, is that the right way to start the negotiation with two days left before the fiscal cliff or shouldn't he sit down and hammer out a deal with the senate republicans and house republicans. do you think a deal gets done? >> i do think a deal will get done. i think it might january 1st. i think we will briefly go over the fiscal cliff. the president worked on the issue months and months. the entire "crisis" is an issue of congress' own making . he was taping the meet the press on saturday. house republicans were cozy and doing nothing on the fiscal cliff. john bone bone took himself out of the negotiations and abdicated responsibility and said he would dole with whatever the senate and president had come to. i happening there is a lot of good proprosals on the table and something will get done, too. >> dave: it appears that senate republicans came a long way in sharing their desire for no taxes raised on the wealthy. $550,000 thres hold for couples is a significant compromise. but can they get anything through the house in terms of g
one for me greta and then i will stop talking. the fiscal cliff happening right now. what kind of government should we have and what sort of taxes and spending and who should pay what and end the year with a story about everything that touching scenion do with government that we have been arguing about since the start of the election. >> greta: let's have some fun stuff. linn sanity. >> i particularly enjoyed linn sanity. a wonderful story because he was a guy who came from out of no where who had been cut, released, overlooked by other people but also just didn't fit the type of an nba star are that we see in the modern era. an asian american. a short guy who basically took hold of the team in the biggest media market in the country and led the new york nixon this terrific winning streak. petered out a little bit. still needs to work on turnovers. having mixed success in houston. that was sentimentally that was my favorite story of the year. >> greta: for 2013, pay attention to africa. you mentioned the arab but i think africa is and what is going on there will be huge in 2013
're on the edge of the fiscal cliff right now but that doesn't mean we're just going to sign off on anything. republicans are kind of holding their ground at this point and i believe that means there is a deal this weekend, if something happens in the white house today, it will require democrats to either change their stance on taxes and also include a promise of cuts and entitlement reform. otherwise, we really are looking at january 1 and the fiscal cliff happening. in which case a resolution won't happen until the new congress comes into session on january 3rd. gregg: that's right. we've been following not only the events on the floor but people stepping before microphones. here is representative jim moran. >> there are going to be voting sunday night and then probably watching the skins-cowboys fame in the cloakroom. then we'll, then we'll be in session on december 31st as well. gregg: what does he mean, we're going to vote sunday night? >> here's what might happen. both parties meet with the president today at the white house. they all say look, here we are on the precipice here. let's
-minute deal to avoid the so-called fiscal cliff, right? the president and the vice president, they're going to meet with house speaker john boehner, minority leader nancy pelosi, senate majority harry reid and minority leader mitch mcconnell. that is happening this afternoon. jessica yellin is there. jess, what do we know about the president's plan to get everybody in the same room? do we think there's going to be something that comes out of this? >> reporter: well, this is one of those cases where we really are going to have to wait and see, and all the parties involved are also going in with a big question mark. the idea is the expectation by many of the participants in the meeting is that they hope that they will be able to discuss more details about a scaled-down fiscal cliff plan. and maybe that could lead to some sort of agreement ideally for all parties in which all the senators say that they will not filibuster it, and it can go to a vote. and then speaker boehner could, in theory, agree to bring it to a vote on the house floor after the house comes back on sunday. and then we would
the fiscal cliff, how it will affect your paycheck right away. >>> i'm tracee wilkins in prince george's county. coming up, clergy, children, folks who live in this county remember sandy hook by gathering for prayer in front of a gun shot. i'll have that story coming up. >>> another winter storm making its way. more cold air. >>> we continue right now to follow the latest on the fiscal cliff talks. in just a few minutes, president obama is expected to speak to the media. he's been in meetings all afternoon with congressionally leaders. those meetings wrapped up just over an hour ago. at this point, no word of an agreement. >>> so what if there is no deal? what's the impact of going over the clip for you and your family? we8, right away on your next paycheck you'll see an increase of 2% in the social security tax. for the average family that's about $1,000 more every year. now, something that might take a few weeks, income tax rates will also rise for everyone. if you make between $50 and $75,000, you'll stand to lose about $92 every paycheck. for those making between $75 and $100,000,
than five days to go before falls right off the fiscal cliff. the senate back in session today and it's the first time the senate or house has met for business between christmas and new year's in more than four decades. president obama cut his hawaii trip short arriving in washington early today. for now, the house of representatives is not in session but we've learned those lawmakers are set to return this weekend. today the senate majority leader, harry reid, says we've just about run out of time. >> if we go over the cliff, and that's where we're headed, mr. president, the house of representatives as we speak with four days left after today before the first of the year, aren't here with the speaker having told them they'll give them 48 hours notice. i can't imagine their consciences, out wherever they are around the country and we're here trying to get something done. >> we're awaiting reaction from the senate minority leader, mitch mcconnell. when that happens we'll go live to the senate floor but a spokesman for john boehner says senator reid should talk less and legislate more.
somebody's having a laugh out there about this fiscal cliff business. >>> all right. they're going to do it again. anderson cooper and comedienne kathy griffin, teaming up to usher in the new year from times square. let's say thing got weird last night on "the situation room" when the two were promoting their new year's eve special. look at this. >> somebody tells me, and i'm not sure this is true, somebody tells me that you're obsessed with wolf blitzer. and yet every year it's me talking to you guys because i'm doing blitzer's show. i'm wondering, is that -- do you take it personally, do you think there's something to this? >> i have -- >> i think wolf is wise to stay away from kathy griffin because i once -- i don't know if you know this story, cathy -- candy. i lent -- kathy griffin one asked to come to my house in long island. and like a nice guy, i sent her a key because she wanted to go there a day in advance. and that night -- >> to clean up the place. >> no, first of all -- she arrived, she was terribly disappointed. i think she thought it would be like a house in downtown abbey
over the fiscal cliff. and when that ball comes down in times square tonight, every american's taxes will go up. what happened? >>> the other breaking story tonight. hillary's health. doctors reveal it is a blood clot near mrs. clinton's brain keeping her in the hospital. dr. besser right here with what this means. and what mrs. clinton just told barbara walters after becoming the most traveled secretary of state. >> are you exhausted? >> i am. to be honest, i am. >>> the big chill. a million americans in times square tonight. this evening, the security, the weather. some of the coldest temperatures of the winter. and what we didn't note about something else that will be falling at midnight. ginger zee in times square. >>> and, so long. >> so long. so long. so long. >> the man who said himself, "the show must go on." the first new year's without dick clark, as we heard tonight from his wife. she answers the one question she says so many have been asking her. >>> good evening on this new year's eve. diane counting down with her family. tonight, the other countdown here. the one in was
the fiscal cliff. right now, the leaders of the house and senate are sitting down with president obama in a search for an 11th hour deal to prevent severe tax hikes and spending cuts from automatically kicking in with the new year. cnn's chief white house correspondent jessica yellin is getting new details. jess can ka, what are you hearing about that meeting? >> reporter: candy, the president is going to explain or reiterate the position he took on friday, that he would like a plan that extends tax rates for people who make $250,000 and below but raises them for those who make more than that. that it extends unemployment benefits for americans. and if the president, i'm told will say if he does not get an agreement to that plan, he will ask the other leaders what they can agree to, what what they would like instead. if they cannot come up with a proposal that will pass the house and the senate, will ask for a vote on his measure. but that meeting, candy, is still going on. congre congressional leaders arrived at the white house for a last-ditch meeting just days before a new year's de
, and the legislation they came up with, jeff, contributed o the fiscal cliff that we're facing right now. >> glor: the president says this just keeps happening again and again. nancy cordes, thank you. income taxes won't be the only taxes going up if there's no agreement. estate taxes paid by those who inherit property will also jump. here's john blackstone. >> reporter: jeff page owns 120- cre vineyard in california's napa valley. but when his great-grandfather started farming here in the late 1800s, this was cattle country. >> both sides of the family came en before the turn of the century, and farmed orchard fruit and cattle. he reporter: but much of the land he grew up on is gone, sold to pay estate taxes after his grandfather's death. had land back in the hills over there? >> yeah. >> reporter: had to sell it all. >> had to sell all of it? i reporter: estate tax? >> yes. >> reporter: his grandfather died in 1972 when estate taxes were at an all-time high: 77%. >> it was a big tax bill. it was half-a-million dollars. we sold off 150 acres; gave us hemething to pay the tax with. >> reporter: n
. and we will be following the fiscal cliff talks tomorrow. and clayton, you'll be hear, right? >> clayton: i will. so send us any of your questions as well and your thoughts. our -- go to our web site for the after the show show. >> gretchen: happy new year, everybody. gregg: fox news alert. powerful winter storm bringing deadly weather. >> oh, wow. that is a tornado. jesus, look at that tornado. it is like two tornados. it is two funnels on the frowned. oh, lord. look at there. wow! look at that. gregg: the storm system that produced those tornados in parts of the south not done yet. now posing a potentially major roadblock for countless holiday travelers. hello, i'm gregg jarrett in for bill hemmer. >> i'm patti ann browne in for martha maccallum patti ann: local crews said there is only one thing that could have accused the damage. >> one thing they saw damage indicative of tornado damage. we had homes 90% destroyed. that doesn't happen with straight line winds. >> you have a lot of damage. people hurt and i went out with the skid steer. we rounded up equipment. we started opening the
around -- oh, they're coming back. that's right. they're part of the fiscal cliff power panel. >>> let's turn to the market sell-off. the dow going down 158 pointis and want you to see the after-market numbers and the futures, something called the futures continue to trade and they suggest that if the dow jones industrial average were to open right now it would be down 315 points. the nasdaq would be down a whopping 51 and the s&p 500 down 39. here now is larry glazer from the mayflower advisers and director at tjm institutional services. guys, when we open on monday, is it going to look that bad? jim? >> it depends on what happens. this is the way uncertainty works, but, you know, i thought for a month that one of two things was possible, one that we go over the cliff and the republicans have ground cover to be lowering taxes and not raising them or these are guys who crave the stage. how are they not going to take it down to the 11th hour? they'll never be able to stand in front of their constituents and say they fought the good fight and by my logic it's still december 28th. this is
that they are getting something done, the fiscal cliff meeting at the white house right now. what were the mechanics of rushing the deal through congress and getting it passed into law? what would that look like in four days? lisa desjardins joins us now. what will it look like? >> well, there is a couple of possibilities, don. one is that they take sort of the remnants of one of the bills that passed the house or the senate and they just change it. they add whatever is in this deal to it. they have a whole bunch of vehicles that are possible for that. one sticking point, because this deal would most likely deal with taxes, there is a rule in the constitution that is has been interpreted by most every side to determine it has to begin in the house, revenue measures begin in the house. they need a bill that starts in the house, okay, they have a lot to do that. then the trick is making sure they have the votes. i think if we see anything come out of tonight's meeting, anything substantial, that's what is going to happen this next day and a half. leaders on both sides have to make sure they have got t
, not just right now with the fiscal cliff, but in the new year when a whole host of other issues come to visit us. so, with the new year just days away but the change of the calendar year comes lots of changes in state laws. here's what we're going to be looking at, here's a look at what will be legal and illegal in the new year. >> well, alison, some laws made headlines. gay marriage was passed in maryland and maine and the recreational use of marijuana was passed in colorado and washington state. wait, there's more. much more. let's start with the laws that take effect on january 1st. so, in illinois and california, employers may no longer force their employees to post their accounts. speaking of job seekers, let's check out oregon. employers are not allowed to advertise a job listing in that state unless they are willing to hire the unemployed. in iowa, arsenic is banned in chicken feed. in california, this one made headlines, too. that state is now banning the treatment aimed at changing the sexual orientation of anyone under the age of 18. and on the othlighter side, a n law in i
hit the debt ceiling the day after we follow off the fiscal cliff if no deal is reached. >> that's right. december 31st. a lot going on there. a lot of these budget calamities coming together all at once. economists already warning the fiscal cliff situation could cause another recession. now we're about to hit the nation's debt ceiling. secretary geithner in a letter to congress did go ton say, quote, he would take extraordinary measures and say these extraordinary measures can create approximately $200 billion in head room under the debt limit. under normal circumstances the amount of head room would last approximately two months. however, given the significant uncertainty that now exists with regard to unresolved tax and spending policies for 2013, it's not possible to predict the measure. because of the uncertainty of the fiscal cliff they don't know whether they have enough head room to make sure the nation's debt ceiling doesn't reach limit within two months. the bottom line is even if we deal with the fiscal cliff in the next few days and avert that. there is another crisi
whitfield. here are the top stories we are following right now. >>> that fiscal cliff. we are at the very edge. senate leaders are working through the weekend trying to reach a deal before the deadline. today president obama called on lawmakers to meet their deadlines and responsibilities and forge a compromise to avoid tax hike and spending cuts from taking effect. lisa desjardins is live on capitol hill. what's going on right now? >> reporter: right now it's all behind closed doors, martin. what we just have learned in the last hour, in fact, what reporters have seen here, a surprise. house speaker john boehner was here at the capitol. we're still trying to sort out exactly why he was here, but he wasn't here for very long, it seems. he left in the last hour. also, we were able to see some of senator mcconnell's staffers. i was able to speak to one of them coming in and out of these kind of closed-door planning meetings. he said they've been here since 9:00 a.m. they plan to work all day and we may see his boss, senator mcconnell, later today. that shows us kind of where things stand. i
's not anything for anything for the lawmakers to do this weekend at least as relates to the fiscal cliff. stuart: i'll be interested to see what happens on the market comes monday morning, if there's nothing coming out this weekend. rich edison right on it, thanks very much indeed. >> thanks. stuart: and everybody, you're going to be angry at the next story. on christmas and hanukkahs, many youngsters and teenagers went on twitter to complain about their presents. i'm going to give awe couple of examples, john said i wish i had some filthy rich he will tifs. relatives, my presents sucked. forgive the language. she said all i got was gift cards, my sucks at giiing presents. crystal, the worst, i hate my white iphone. i just wanted to have a black one. oh. complaining about getting a iphone just because it's a color that's wrong? that's disgraceful. joining us now miriam walllock, mother of six, the kids, that is would never complain about a gift, would they? >> well, listen, my kids are not angels, they are kids, but i think there are a lot of fastets to the story, to be explored and my first rea
that the fiscal cliff won't hit the economy right away. tell actually give lawmakers more time to continue negotiating. but how long can our economy take the uncertainty? >> it is not just uncertainty. we have had that factored in. the reality is that unless the president suspends the increase in payroll taxes that are going to take place, not just social security, but withholding for income tax, while they continue to negotiate, we have gone off the cliff. in the month of january, people will live off their credit cards, but they can only do that so long. come february and march, the higher taxes will require adjustments in the spending habits of folk who is make between $25,000 and $100,000 a year. i would point out that this is no reason to give the president everything he wants and pass that bill that he proposes because if the republicans do that, they lose all their leverage. i have news for most people. if we dont curb our spending, everybody's going to have to pay the higher taxes in the end because things are flying out of ceil. >> no one's talking about spending cuts right now t.
the the fiscal cliff. everyone's taxes as of right now set to go up january 1st. do we have the countdown clock up? we'll get that up later, but here is where congressional leaders and the president stand on the fiscal cliff, listen. >> but whatever we come up with is going to be imperfect, some people are going to like it, some people like it less, but that's where we are and i feel confident that we have an obligation to do the best we can. >> a good meeting down to the white house. we are engaged in discussions, the majority leader and myself, and the white house in the hopes that we can come forward as early as sunday and have a recommendation that i can make to my conference and the majority leader can make hess to his conference and we'll be working hard to see if we can get there in the next 24 hours and so i'm hopeful and optimistic. >> i'm modestly optimistic that an agreement can be achieved. nobody can get 100% of what they want. let's make sure that middle class families and the american economy and in fact the world economy aren't adversely impacted because people can't do their jo
's handling the fiscal cliff. republicans in congress are in the mid-20s. >> that's right, there's no question about that, tremont. obama has done a much better job of positioning himself to take advantage of the fiscal cliff. he has painted republicans is only caring about their millionaire and billionaire friends. taking hostage the people of america. you have steny hoyer saying that republicans want to take children hostage and threatened to shoot them. this is vilifying republicans and it has been incredibly effective. in the short term, absolutely, the president is set to take advantage of this. tax increases, massive tax reductions to the military. republicans really stand and the notion is appalling about who wins, but the republicans win because the economy is going to go out yet another fiscal cliff. george w. bush is not the president. obama is the president, he is not putting forth proposals to work with republicans. he will have to take ownership of this. they need to come up with a cohesive message about real economic growth and shrinking the size of government. they don't have a
right off the fiscal cliff. take a live look at the white house where president obama called the top house and senate leaders from both parties to try and hammer out a deal avoiding the tax hikes and crippling spending cuts. remember analysts say falling off the fiscal cliff could drive the u.s. into another recession. more than a month has passed since the last time they got together. the obama administration called that mid another meeting constructive but there has been little to no progress. today lawmakers on both sides of the aisle tried to strike an optimistic tone. >> millions of americans are out there struggling and certainly they deserve a congress that will avoid going over the fiscal cliff, which is why the president has been working hard to bring leaders together. >> we can't continue to kick the can down the road with half measures. i think the market will respond in a permanent and negative way to our inaction. >> the chairman of the senate finance committee says it comes down to this meeting adding i wish them luck. it would be a great new year's present for the coun
. >> a game of beat the clock. right now on capitol hill, and you guessed it, it's fiscal cliff countdown time. senate leaders on both sides now trying to reach a deal to prevent a huge tax hike on the middle class come the first of the year. senators warn that is not going to be easy. >> i'm going to do everything that i can. i'm confident senator mcconnell will do the same. but everybody, this is whatever we come up with is going to be imperfect. some people aren't going to like it, some people will like it less, but that's where we are, and i feel confident that we have an obligation to do the best we can and that was made very clear in the white house. we're going do the best we can for the caucuses that we have and the country that's waiting for us to make a decision. >>> paul bran disis the bureau chief of the west wing report in washington. and paul, you are a well-known veteran of all things washington. what is really going on behind the scenes right now as we wait to learn if they can reach a compromise or not? >> you know, the sound bite you ran at the top of this piece just i think
to avert the fiscal cliff. on saturday, the president was at work here in the white house, but all eyes were on the senate where negotiators were trading deal points in trying to reach an agreement. any bipartisan bill has to include a extension of unemployment benefits that would effect 2 million americans and an increase for taxes for the highest income workers. >>> now, while that. negotiation is continuing, the president has asked senate majority leader, harry reed to prepare an alternative bill to have ready to put on the senate floor as early as sunday. that bill would raise taxes on households that earn $250,000 or more. that is a democratic proposal and you can expect that republicans would block it, so think of that less as a stop gap measure and more as a political move to sthift the failure of responsibility to the republicans just as the nation approaches the hour of republic -- the hour of reckoning. >> the nation's capitol could see snow of 3-5 inches tonight. washington not alone, these pictures are from indiana, they are see issing more snow than the blizzard that hit ea
. "early start" begins right now. >>> crunch time for the fiscal cliff. the key players to meet at the white house with just four days left until the deadline. >> they called him stormin norman. america remembering general norman schwarzkopf. >> and have gun, will teach. hundreds of educators get a hands-on lesson in firearms. controversial proposal. good morning. welcome to "early start." 5:00 a.m. in the east. >>> it is the last friday of 2012. i've just had that pointed out to us. one final desperate attempt to dodge the fiscal cliff, just four days left before we go over the edge triggers tax hikes, spending cuts that could send the nation back into recession. the president calling for members of the congress the back. a gang of six attending. vice president biden, harry reid, house minority leader nancy pelosi, mitch mcconnell and john boehner representing the republicans. brianna keilar is live from washington. is anybody optimistic that a deal could be done today around a table? >> i will tell you the optimism is sort of sinking. senate majority leader harry reid said he
"newsroom" begins right now. >>> happening now in the newsroom, you know the fiscal cliff is fast approaching, but do you know how the u.s. got into this latest economic crisis? we have the answer. >>> chicago suffers a grim milestone. 500 homicides this year alone. later this hour, we'll talk to reverend jesse jackson about the probl problem. >>> we'll take you to the kennedy space center for an inside look at the museum. >>> and reviewers are raving about microsoft's latest updates but chances are you aren't even using it it. we'll explain this tech disconnect. newsroom starts right now. >> good morning. i'm victor blackwell. we're starting with you, your money and your taxes and that cliff. we're just four days from the fiscal cliff. this afternoon in the 11th hour, this is when it always happens, there's a high-stakes meeting at the white house. at the table, president obama and congressional leaders. the goal is to reach an agreement. but the roots of this current crisis can be traced back to the previous administration. cnn's chief business correspondent has a look at how we
? this is kind of very structural pressures. >> that's right and that's what underlies the fiscal cliff. they're looking out beyond 2020, all these people retiring, providing defense costs more and more because of less efficiencies in government stuff so the calculus isn't good. it isn't good for us or anyone but there are things to do. there are a lot of things we can do better, more private infrastructure spending, improving our education system, making entitlement systems, means tested. >> shifting federal spending from consumption to investment as for the future. >> all right, ken thanks very much, and we'll be leaning on you for guidance over the course of the next few days. >>> who doesn't want a little eva longoria in her life. she's helping fellow latinas get a college education. are easy with free pickup from the u.s. postal service. we'll even drop off boxes if you need them. visit usps.com pay, print, and have it picked up for free. any time of year. ♪ nice sweater. thank you. ♪ >>> yesterday we brought you the shirtless matthew mcconaughey. today something the men at the desk
. >> and a fiscal cliff compromise won't happen with a sway and say with the negotiations. >> right. >> how much do lobbying groups wind up turning the negotiations in a certain way to really make things sort of end up where we just started? sort of going over -- >> again, capital gains is a good, wall street is heavily involved in trying to keep the rates as low as possible. so i think the lower capital gains rate is a good example. i think the lobbying pressure is significant, but also just the pull verifization, the political pull zerization we've seen in our country. no governing middle right now in the country. that -- the center, where you find the compromises and bill consensus to move forward, we just don't have that governing coalition here, and the president has tried to work with the congressional leadership, and i understand that, but the congressional leadership really are dealing more with their kind of hard-line partisans. they're not negotiating from the middle either. i look back to the 1980s when i worked in the senate and we had ronald reagan as president and my old boss bob dole
away from the fiscal cliff negotiations? >> there seems to be some politics behind this announcement right now as we hit the ceiling. as you make the calculations, it seemed to me as if they were only going to hit the ceiling in february or march next year anyway. the fact that he comes out and says actually we're shutting the ceiling now and i have to make all these adjustments so we hit only in february seems to me that there is a bit of politics going on already and trying to increase the pressure on the republicans to agree at the year end. >> i wonder how much is priced into the markets. despite the fact that we're going partially over the cliff or doing the coyote/roadrunner thing in the air, i'm just not sure that we are necessarily going to see a huge move. among other things, it seems the market is tired of the political wrangling'. >> indeed. i think what is priced in is that this is priced in at a slope. it's something that's going accumulate over the year and is going to hit the gdp if it really hits over the course of the whole year, not all in january. it's not going to
over the fiscal cliff. a bill should be ready to vote on they say. that's the word today from the senate majority leader harry reid hours after that big meeting between the president and top lawmakers at the white house. and you can bet the clock is ticking. congress and the president have fewer than four days to sign off on a deal. before those tough spending cuts kick in and the taxes go up on nearly every american. mike emanuel live for us tonight by phone from capitol hill. mike, what is next? >> well, harris, everybody agrees the next step is trying to move a bipartisan plan in the senate. majority leader harry reid recognizes this is a critical time. we have a lot meeting in the white house very con struck stif. we hope that it will bear fruit. we hope the next 24 hours will be very instructive as to what we're able to accomplish. >> in order to make that happen, the senate will not be in session tomorrow, harris. >> do they generally agree with the democratic perspective here on whether or not this can get done? >> harris, republicans say it was a good meeting at the wh
own budget battle right now, the fiscal cliff. and the fact that the president wanted to tax the wealthy at a higher rate than what the middle class would get. there is something we might be able to learn from what's going on in france right now? >> i think the thing to learn at the moment that they've been trying in france is probably second nature to an american. what they're trying to learn in france is that it's not bad news to be an entrepreneur. if you have this entrepreneur spirit, you can do it. but you do have to put things in slowly and to reach out and i think that's where the president of france has lost a lot of ground. he didn't get a lot of people on his side, even though he said that this tax hike would only be for a very small proportion of the population and would only be for two years. but because it was seen to have been rushed through, not properly spelled out, it was difficult. >> kelly: one final question, if i may, what kind of deficit reduction would this tax be able to provide for the people of france, if you incur 75% tax because you just happen to
, right? gregg: stay in bed. heather: more on the fiscal cliff. president obama and top congressional leaders set to meet at the white house in about 30 minutes in a last-ditch effort to avoid tax increases on nearly all americans and a fiscal crisis, but what we've heard so far a is lot of fingerpointing. no solutions. no signs of progress for president obama. this left haven't hour scramble represents a test how he would balance the power of his re-election with his commitment to compromise. so who is to blame if both sides can't bridge the divide? tara dowdell, democratic strategist, with former jim mcgreevey and david webb, accident cirrus xm patriot radio. good to see both of you. i want to begin with this. last night on fox news, this is what south carolina senator lindsey graham had to say about this meeting today. he said, quote, anytime you announce a meeting publicly in washington it's usually for political theater purposes. so, tara, is this all show? >> well i agree, obviously there is always some political theater going on in politics. i would say this year's oscar though
, could we possibly be on the verge of a deal to avoid the fiscal cliff? you are looking live right now at the white house. that's where something big is going to be going on. just about seven hours from now, it will be the sight of a high stakes meeting with president obama and the leaders of congress. and to weigh in on this is doug, live in washington more details. >> good morning. they're going to be talking today and maybe that in and of itself is something of an achievement. issues will be on the table in that room in the white house as they all gather around and one of the items that's being discussed here in washington, believe it or not, is the price of milk. more on that in just a moment. but the president did, in fact, return early from his vacation in hawaii yesterday. he is coming back for this big meeting at the white house. we don't know if there is a new white house strategy here or if there is going to a new offer from the president, but many republicans are not terribly hopeful. >> any time you announce a meeting publicly in washington, it's usually for political theat
, but we're also reading they're taking a step back right now on the very issue of the debate of the fiscal cliff. is it really the tea party congress members or not? >> i think it's hard to predict exactly who might get blamed if something doesn't happen. that seems too far in the future for me but if you look at all of the piece that is are in play, the one thing we haven't talked about is the debt limit. it is going to be hit soon. and then the treasury can use extraordinary measures to extend it but caused the fight that made us sit here today to talk about the quote/unquote fiscal cliff and the republican haves the boehner rule to ask for a dollar in cut for every dollar the limit is extended. the debt limit being money that we have paid and obligation to pay. and so, if democrats and republicans aren't come together now, and a month and a half from now republicans come back to the table and say we need more cuts, i don't know what the president is going to look to to cut. seems like a complicated mess that they have on their hands and the more clarity they get now, the easier it's goi
? >>> fears of the fiscal cliff are taking some of the holiday cheer right out of wall street. cnn's alison kosik watching the post-christmas trading as well as a threat to the economy that could come even sooner than the cliff? let's start with the stocks, though. >> reporter: yes, stocks, very quiet today, very quiet session. not many investors in the game today. expect that to be the case the rest of the week. the fun tny thing, this is usuay the time we see the santa claus rally. the dow down 46 points. no deal on the if i'm not mistaken. that's spoiling the rally so far. it could be worse, though. we've seen much harsher reaction to all the congressional shenanigans in the past that could be a sign the economy is in better shape this time around. the s&p 500 is still on track for a 13% gain for the year. >>alison, what's the container cliff? >> reporter: the container cliff could be serious stuff. it could be a major threat to the economy. but it's also something that can be avoided. this container cliff is the name the national retail federation has given to this situation if workers
cliff. i'm curious what the mood is like in washington right now. >> there is is an infinitesimal increase in optimism because of the mood out of that meeting today, but i still would say the odds -- the people who are placing bets in this town still expect that the nation will go over the fiscal cliff. so still a little bit more hope than when we woke up this morning but no one is counting on being off on new year's eve. randi. >> jessica, thanks. more now on the raw politics with "new york times" columnist ross douthat the and cornell. the president said he wanted to see a straight up-or-down vote. as we mentioned that, will happen on monday in the senate. he could lose that up-or-down vote. >> i think you're likely to see something come out of the senate. you have to pay attention, especially on the senate side to tone. what minority leader mcconnell was saying was tone was right. i think you'll see something come out of the senate but i think the problem comes on the house side, whether or not speaker boehner what it send theirs way to go an up or down vote without having the
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republicans. and this is problematic obviously because in order to avoid the fiscal cliff, you would need to find some sort of deal that would make it through the senate and the house and that would need democratic and republican support. now, all eyes on the senate because they will reconvene on the 27th, thursday. and senate majority leader harry reid, it is up to him, really, to cobble together something that can get some of that support. right now the white house is still supporting a threshold of $250,000 back to their initial starting point for tax rates going up for those making more than that. but you can imagine, hala, that's going to be very hard for some republicans, maybe even some democrats to sign on to. >> right. and for just about a week ago, it was common to hear a deal will be hammered out. over the last several days we're hearing more and more that potentially this is a reality for americans in eight days' time. your sources in the administration, is there a real concern among some of the people you're speaking with that indeed this fiscal cliff will become a reality? >
, right after january 1st. gregg: we shall see. >> going over the fiscal cliff has been president obama's mission from the very beginning. the fact that he -- >> i don't believe that for a second. i don't believe it for a second. gregg: you reilly think he wants to do this. >> absolutely. because you ownly gets his way, he only gets his way if he backs us all up against the wall and says you have no choice. it is my way or the highway. that has been his negotiating. >> very sad somebody would talk like that and thing like that. >> it is i agree. happy new year. >> happy new year. gregg: not really. patti ann: well, panic at a shopping mall. wait until you see what happens, a 33-ton tank suddenly bursts. what is sent into the mall. we'll tell you. gregg: a final farewell for the firefighters shot dead while responding to a christmas eve fire. how a community is remembering them. how an officer is being hailed as a hero in helping to save others. >> at that point, i mean, i am no different than anybody standing in this room. i'm driving to work, you know. i am a police officer. i don't ha
in hopes of a last minute deal to avoid the fiscal cliff. 11 news saturday morning starts right now. >> good morning and welcome to 11 news saturday morning. i'm jennifer franciotti. lisa has the weekend off. >> i'm barry sims. third time's a charm this week with the winter weather. a snowy day is on tap for us. let's get right to lou mowser to tell us all about it. >> some folks were expecting to see some snow when they woke up this morning. >> we were expecting it. >> some areas are seeing flurries right now. most are not. i think this is going to start a little bit later on them than what we anticipated. starting to show up on radar. let's show hd doppler right now. currently, the areas that you see in darker blue, that's where snow is falling. but, the whiter areas that's snow is coming down, but it's not hitting the ground. when you can see areas south of the dc area around annapolis. we're seeing a rain/snow mix that is starting to fall there. what's interesting is you see this area, this open area start to hagers town and comes down around winchester. that area is moving in h
to family or friend since december 19. >> just three days until the so- called fiscal cliff, and there are new developments on the road to a deal. richard reeve has been following all of the twists and turns. while there is still nothing concrete, both sides are talking? >> that is right democratic and republican leaders are trying to broker a last-minute deal to allow a rank-and-file vote sunday, the radically house members back in session sunday night would look but time is running out. as the fiscal cliff deadline approaches -- >> i cannot believe we got this close. >> the sign of the times reflecting most americans' frustrations. >> sit down, go into a room, and don't come out until you take care of this. >> the fallout with no deal. and every american's tax rates are going up. every american's paychecks will get a lot smaller. >> friday, president obama and congressional leaders met about an hour and agreed to keep talking. >> it is constructive and it is getting done. we will see. >> this eveleaders in the senate are signaling they are ready to compromise. >> i'm hope
of the late breaking developments on the fiscal cliff negotiations which are coming down to the wire. it's a working weekend in washington. have a great weekend and a happy new year. "anderson cooper 360" starts right now. >>> john, thanks. we begin tonight with breaking news about your paycheck, your unemployment check, your defense job, the entire economy, you name it. all of it is at stake if the country goes over the fiscal cliff. it's a cliff that lawmakers built. they set the tuesday deadline, they knew it was coming for more than a year. but even now, they have done little to agree to a package before that time. keeping them honest, the people in this building have known what's coming on tuesday, yet they're only returning to this building to get back to work just now. senators came back yesterday. house members, well, they woet be back until sunday. this afternoon, house and senate leaders met with president obama at the white house. they talked for about an hour. afterwards, president obama said he was modestly optimistic. bypassing house speaker john boehner who had trouble get
? how likely is it that we'll go over the fiscal cliff? i'm curious about the mood in washington right now. >> there is an increase in optimism because of the mood out of that meeting today. but i still would say the people who are -- placing bets in this town still expect that the nation will go over the fiscal cliff. so still a little bit more hope than what we woke up this morning, but no one is counting on being off on new year's eve. >> randy. >> jessica, thank you, more now on the raw politics, good to see you both. cornell, let me start with you here, the president said he wanted to see a straight up or down vote. as we mentioned that could happen in the senate. we could lose the up or down vote. >> you are going to see something come out of the senate. you have to pay attention to the tone, i think you will see something come out of the senate on up and down, but i think the problem comes on the house side, whether or not in fact speaker john boehner is going to allow what the senate sends their way to go on an up or down vote, without having a majority of the majority. >> and
't so high for the rest of us. >> that's right. two days left until we all go over the fiscal cliff, which would mean everyone's taxes will go up, and sharp spending cuts will go into effect. that could drive our economy back into recession. so let's go to abc news chief white house correspondent jonathan karl filling in today for george stephanopoulos as host of abc's "this week." >> hey, jon, good morning. i know today and tomorrow, obviously hugely important. can you sort of walk us through the potential order of operations? what could we see play out today and tomorrow? >> well, it is right down to the wire, dan. what's happening right now is harry reid and mitch mcconnell, the top democrat, top republican in the senate, are still negotiating their staffs at this hour. they are supposed to be working until about 3:00 this afternoon when the plan would be presented to both caucuses. as we understand what they are talking about is the bare minimum. basically the senate negotiating to extend those tax cuts for everybody making under $250,000 a year and to extend unemployment benefi
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